Starting over, questions abound!

[jeffopentax]

Ok, got all my rock out and stored in Rubbermaid with power head.  What do I do with my sand?  Can I save $100+ by saving it and reusing it, or should I buy new?

To Mods: feel free to move this thread to different category.  Trying to keep all info in one place, but it's not really a Build Thread.


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[Sewerat]

Jeff I have been told sand at or around 2". Or over 7" otherwise it dies. But then again....what do I know?

 

[jeffopentax]

Jeff I have been told sand at or around 2\". Or over 7\" otherwise it dies. But then again....what do I know?

Probably know more than me!  Not really concerned about keeping it live, but more abour whether there could be a possible negative effect ie. decay from dieoff

 

[pulpfiction1]

lots of people clean and reuse their sand,personally aint worth the effort(gone bare bottom),i would assume key is how clean you get it

 

[Neopimp]

I have had sand stored in a few pails for a couple weeks.... yes they turned all stinky and rotten egg smelling at the bottom.  I rinsed the sand in another bucket a little at a time until the water coming out of it ran clear.  twirl it by hand, blast it with the garden hose, pour out the scuzz, repeat with another 8th -1/4 bucket. 


Worked for me just fine. 

 

[Poseidon]

I have had sand stored in a few pails for a couple weeks.... yes they turned all stinky and rotten egg smelling at the bottom.  I rinsed the sand in another bucket a little at a time until the water coming out of it ran clear.  twirl it by hand, blast it with the garden hose, pour out the scuzz, repeat with another 8th -1/4 bucket. 


Worked for me just fine. 

yup its doable to clean it, but might be worth your time to just buy new... takes a while to clean a couple pails of sand

 

[Neopimp]

The sand I washed was  about. 6 months old in smaller tank and then stored in a bucket for a month.  Just to give you an idea


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[jeffopentax]

Thoroughly washing 100lbs doesn't sound very enticing.  Guess i'll be buying new!

 

[Sewerat]

Build a sand washer outta screening and make a business outta it. Lol

 

[jeffopentax]

Back to the beananimal... Can any 2 drains converge to one line before entering sump?  Which 2? Planning on using aqueon proflex 4 sump, which has two "in" lines.

 

[pulpfiction1]

the full syphon on the bean animal shouldnt be more than a couple of inches below the water,i had restart issues at first untill i read this tid bit

 

[Neopimp]

you could combine the trickle and the ermg if you wanted to but the siphon wouldn't work if combined with anything but another siphon. if you teed into that then you would suck a ton of air into the stream and turn your sump into a bubble tub.

 

[jeffopentax]

So in theory, i could have full syphon entering one, and emergency and open standpipe entering the other?

 

[jeffopentax]

you could combine the trickle and the ermg if you wanted to but the siphon wouldn't work if combined with anything but another siphon. if you teed into that then you would suck a ton of air into the stream and turn your sump into a bubble tub.

That's what i figured.  Thanks for confirming

 

[Neopimp]

I wouldn't combine any of them.  I would find an open spot anywhere in the sump and run the ermeg line there, keeping the trickle and the siphon on the inlets

 

[Neopimp]

could try it with the combination but I would have a back up plan lol

 

[jeffopentax]

the full syphon on the bean animal shouldnt be more than a couple of inches below the water,i had restart issues at first untill i read this tid bit

Good to know!  Prob saved me a whole lot of aggravation!

 

[Neopimp]

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the full syphon on the bean animal shouldnt be more than a couple of inches below the water,i had restart issues at first untill i read this tid bit

Good to know!  Prob saved me a whole lot of aggravation!
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Curious if you have the elbows on the top of your siphons pulp or if it just a straight open stand pipe?

 

[jeffopentax]

I wouldn't combine any of them.  I would find an open spot anywhere in the sump and run the ermeg line there, keeping the trickle and the siphon on the inlets

Suppose it would actually easier to run emergency into another chamber.

 

[Sewerat]

I'd consider running the emerg direct to the pump side, if you are getting high in tank level you should be getting low in sump level. Would help to prevent a burnt out pump as well