sps help

[jroovers]

No, I think this display tank is a self contained tank as far as I'm aware.

 

[Duke]

must be its in the middle of the store.

 

[Duke]

maybe someone windexed the crap out of it when you werent there?

 

[Big_Als_London]

No, I think this display tank is a self contained tank as far as I'm aware.

correct

 

[Big_Als_London]

maybe someone windexed the crap out of it when you werent there?

Wouldn't everything be effected by this?  The nauti and green cap are doing great still but the digi is showing next to no polyp extension.  The true Undata I have has great extension.  I am so confused right now.

 

[Reef Hero]

Oh geeze, sorry then this changes everything haha

 

[teebone110]

maybe someone windexed the crap out of it when you werent there?

Lol!
I have seen this in the store first hand, but don't think this is the issue or everything in the tank would be affected.

Aaron shouldn't be so hard on his workers that they need to look like they are busy all the time  ;D

 

[TorontoBound]

I believe your low alk and higher phos levels have a lot to do with it.

 

[Big_Als_London]

I believe your low alk and higher phos levels have a lot to do with it.

i thought this first but the water parameters are the same in both tanks. The one piece has what looks like a big bite mark and today I saw the bicolor blenny chomping on the live rock in the area the sps were. Removal of the blenny is my first step while the frags heal in my other system.

Anyone have a fish trap I can borrow lol this blenny will be a real bitch to catch.

 

[reeffreak]

[quote author=TorontoBound link=topic=7663.msg79813#msg79813 date=1391642106]
I believe your low alk and higher phos levels have a lot to do with it.

i thought this first but the water parameters are the same in both tanks. The one piece has what looks like a big bite mark and today I saw the bicolor blenny chomping on the live rock in the area the sps were. Removal of the blenny is my first step while the frags heal in my other system.

Anyone have a fish trap I can borrow lol this blenny will be a real bitch to catch.
[/quote]

Good time to order in a fish trap and use it for advertisement lol.

 

[Big_Als_London]

[quote author=Big_Als_London link=topic=7663.msg79845#msg79845 date=1391652166]
[quote author=TorontoBound link=topic=7663.msg79813#msg79813 date=1391642106]
I believe your low alk and higher phos levels have a lot to do with it.

i thought this first but the water parameters are the same in both tanks. The one piece has what looks like a big bite mark and today I saw the bicolor blenny chomping on the live rock in the area the sps were. Removal of the blenny is my first step while the frags heal in my other system.

Anyone have a fish trap I can borrow lol this blenny will be a real bitch to catch.
[/quote]

Good time to order in a fish trap and use it for advertisement lol.
[/quote]I have a customer who worked for the ministry of natural resources and they used this "shocker" to catch fish. Basically its a small current to freeze the fish so they float to the surface.  He is making a small scaled down version of this to catch something out of his tank. If it works for him I will try it next.

 

[curiousphil]

Ha I remember seeing a short documentary thing where they used those to capture fish in rivers for research, seemed neat.

 

[TorontoBound]

[quote author=reeffreak link=topic=7663.msg79856#msg79856 date=1391661406]

[quote author=Big_Als_London link=topic=7663.msg79845#msg79845 date=1391652166]
[quote author=TorontoBound link=topic=7663.msg79813#msg79813 date=1391642106]
I believe your low alk and higher phos levels have a lot to do with it.

i thought this first but the water parameters are the same in both tanks. The one piece has what looks like a big bite mark and today I saw the bicolor blenny chomping on the live rock in the area the sps were. Removal of the blenny is my first step while the frags heal in my other system.

Anyone have a fish trap I can borrow lol this blenny will be a real bitch to catch.
[/quote]

Good time to order in a fish trap and use it for advertisement lol.
[/quote]I have a customer who worked for the ministry of natural resources and they used this "shocker" to catch fish. Basically its a small current to freeze the fish so they float to the surface.  He is making a small scaled down version of this to catch something out of his tank. If it works for him I will try it next.
[/quote]

I would still correct the water parameters first.

Also I would not use a "shocker" or "mini shocker" to catch a blenny... You have to remember the ministry uses it in freshwater and the volume of water is night and day in comparison then to your aquarium. Also the stray voltage can cause irreparable damage.

I would recommend using an aquamedic fish trap, kordon fish coral, or you can YouTube how to make one by using a 2L pepsi or coke bottle whatever your preference. Also what are you testing your aquarium with? Which brand of test kit?

 

[reeffreak]

Ya I think the shocker is a bad idea also. Fish are way to small for that.

 

[Big_Als_London]

[quote author=Big_Als_London link=topic=7663.msg79872#msg79872 date=1391694674]
[quote author=reeffreak link=topic=7663.msg79856#msg79856 date=1391661406]

[quote author=Big_Als_London link=topic=7663.msg79845#msg79845 date=1391652166]
[quote author=TorontoBound link=topic=7663.msg79813#msg79813 date=1391642106]
I believe your low alk and higher phos levels have a lot to do with it.

i thought this first but the water parameters are the same in both tanks. The one piece has what looks like a big bite mark and today I saw the bicolor blenny chomping on the live rock in the area the sps were. Removal of the blenny is my first step while the frags heal in my other system.

Anyone have a fish trap I can borrow lol this blenny will be a real bitch to catch.
[/quote]

Good time to order in a fish trap and use it for advertisement lol.
[/quote]I have a customer who worked for the ministry of natural resources and they used this "shocker" to catch fish. Basically its a small current to freeze the fish so they float to the surface.  He is making a small scaled down version of this to catch something out of his tank. If it works for him I will try it next.
[/quote]

I would still correct the water parameters first.

Also I would not use a "shocker" or "mini shocker" to catch a blenny... You have to remember the ministry uses it in freshwater and the volume of water is night and day in comparison then to your aquarium. Also the stray voltage can cause irreparable damage.

I would recommend using an aquamedic fish trap, kordon fish coral, or you can YouTube how to make one by using a 2L pepsi or coke bottle whatever your preference. Also what are you testing your aquarium with? Which brand of test kit?
[/quote]I know how to build the traps. Obviously I wont be the test subject and he will be testing it in a system with corals and cheap fish.  If it doesn't work for him or he has problems I wont be using it. Also salt is a conductor of electricity so the shocker will be greatly down graded.

Test kits are
Red sea for calcium and phosphate
and api for alk and nitrate

 

[TorontoBound]

I would recommend testing all your parameter with RedSea Pro Test kits.

Your phosphate reading will be accurate if done correctly.

Also I would highly recommend not to use a mini shocker even if your buddies test shows it to be somewhat safe.

I would presume that your display tank has a few thousand dollars of livestock if not more...

The damage might not show immediately but it will show down the road...

 

[Big_Als_London]

I would recommend testing all your parameter with RedSea Pro Test kits.

Your phosphate reading will be accurate if done correctly.

Also I would highly recommend not to use a mini shocker even if your buddies test shows it to be somewhat safe.

I would presume that your display tank has a few thousand dollars of livestock if not more...

The damage might not show immediately but it will show down the road...

I still don't think its the parameters as they are very close to the same in both tanks and the new tank they are in are showing improvement every day. I just don't think it would be that rapid.  These parameters have been about the same since November. Why now and this rapidly would they show an adverse reaction?

 

[TorontoBound]

The only two parameters that may be accurate would be your phosphate and calcium. Your alk and other parameter that are being tested with API are not accurate. you may be getting the same reading but they could be the same wrong reading. Again what will it cost you to open up a Red Sea Test Kit for store use? A lot cheaper then retail.

I don't say this to be rude... I just think why guess? Find out and determine the cause...

Prevention is cheaper then treatment and prevention is worth its weight in GOLD

 

[curiousphil]

I would actually argue that the API alk is pretty accurate whereas the phosphate is way off.  I measure both of those with a Hanna checker and compared the results against my API kit a few times - the alk was almost dead on where the phosphate is nearly impossible to read.  And really as long as the alk has been stable it doesn't matter too much what the actual value is, does it?  As long as it's in the normal range of 7-12.

 

[TorontoBound]

Fluctuation is a big no no and can cause big problems but you are correct regarding consistency even if it is less then ideal.

I would also check your pH level as alkalinity goes hand in hand with pH.