Water Changes

BigReefer

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London, Ontario
Hey team


i was wondering how often ppl do water changes ... I just wanted ppl opinion on this subject... On my 29 biocube Hqi , I do 5 gallon weekly and on my 93 cube tank I do water changes about 20% every other week??? am I do to many or not enough ... I was just ppl thoughts??

Thanks :)
 

Kman

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KW
I do 30 gallons a week. My system has 300 gallons of water volume. Every two months I will do a 60 gallon water change.
 

heath

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Oct 2, 2012
Location
Woodstock, Ontario
right now I am doing big water changes, algae... normally I do about 10 % every 2 weeks, but I do top ups because of water evaporation..roughly 8 to 10 gals a week on a 125 gal w/ 55 gal sump..I used to be a heavy feeder as well..
 

Jewel

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Oct 11, 2011
Location
Wingham Ontario
What you're doing is good, it may sound like 5 on a 29 is a lot once a week but I think the cubes need it, There's not a lot of water volume in them and to compensate for that it's a good idea to interduce more clean water to the system.
 

Skim

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Brantford, Ontario
This is a great subject, I know back in the late 80's and 90's we did water changes to get those nutrient numbers down but its funny how that has always been the same to now modern day and yet we have all these new products to remover the 2 big ones that was the reason behind water changes Nitrate and Phosphate. When I was first into the Reef Tanks the 6500K MH bulb was just coming out and selling for like $200.00 and the Coralife 5500K was the big light at the time and was supplemented with the Philips Actinic tubes was almost the only source for blue or the 420nm spectrum. Instant Ocean and Coralife was the Salts to use and yes even then the debate should we use the Coralife because it had more Cal and Mg. in it.
So here we are now and I wonder do we need to change water as often as we did back then, with all the modern and vary efficient equipment and all the water treatment products we have at our finger tips. An old saying comes to mind " IF ITS NOT BROKE DON'T FIX IT " If your Nitrates are all in check and your Phosphates are in check would we not be better to leave well enough alone until something brings the need for one. It almost seems that doing weekly or monthly changes could have a bigger potential of throwing things out of whack then if it was left alone.
Just one of those things that makes me go hmmmmmmmm.

Skim
 

Jewel

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Wingham Ontario
I see what you're saying, I think water changes sooth the soul, I mean you want to do anything you can to enhance your tank and it just feels good to know that that 10 or 20% water change is so easy to do. You look at the tank after words and say it's so much clearer but really it isn't. But if you look on the side of your salt pail and see all the salt properties surely they are being depleted as time goes by. I think if you have high Nitrate or Phosphate then doing a 40% water change must have a positive effect on your system. It's a great way to export detritus if you clean the sand. I think it needs to be done if only to replenish the depleating salt properties especially on smaller systems with out skimmers. Imagine having a 6 gallon Nano and replacing 2 or 3 gallons weekly. It has to make a difference although you wouldn't replace 40 or 50 gl on a 100 gl tank. On a weekly basis.
 

EricTMah

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Kitchener, Ontario
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This is a great subject, I know back in the late 80's and 90's we did water changes to get those nutrient numbers down but its funny how that has always been the same to now modern day and yet we have all these new products to remover the 2 big ones that was the reason behind water changes Nitrate and Phosphate. When I was first into the Reef Tanks the 6500K MH bulb was just coming out and selling for like $200.00 and the Coralife 5500K was the big light at the time and was supplemented with the Philips Actinic tubes was almost the only source for blue or the 420nm spectrum. Instant Ocean and Coralife was the Salts to use and yes even then the debate should we use the Coralife because it had more Cal and Mg. in it.
So here we are now and I wonder do we need to change water as often as we did back then, with all the modern and vary efficient equipment and all the water treatment products we have at our finger tips. An old saying comes to mind " IF ITS NOT BROKE DON'T FIX IT " If your Nitrates are all in check and your Phosphates are in check would we not be better to leave well enough alone until something brings the need for one. It almost seems that doing weekly or monthly changes could have a bigger potential of throwing things out of whack then if it was left alone.
Just one of those things that makes me go hmmmmmmmm.

Skim
Yes and no.
Yes leaving a system alone when it's running well gives it better stability. There's still the debate that doing larger water changes will cause a fluctuation which disrupts the stability.
So in that sense yes.

But we all know in this hobby that things can go south quickly. I've seen systems that normally run at less that 10ppm NO3 go as high as 20-30ppm just because something small was missed. Like skimmer was dirty and stopped pulling gunk, forgot to change filter sock or floss.

We all perform regular water changes to help prevent that from happening.

I agree with the KISS method of doing everything. But somethings need to be done to ensure the health of the inhabitants in our care. There's a reason why millions of hobbyists still perform regular weekly or bi-weekly water changes.

Don't get me wrong. There are ways like the Triton method that eliminate water changes. But until that fancy pc comes up to Canada and allows us to analyze our water to that degree of detail. The simplest way to maintain a healthy reef is to perform water changes.

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Kman

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KW
I am a strong believer in water changes. They are not done just to get nutrients in order. They also take out the build up of toxins and anti growth hormones that various corals and algae excrete. Chemical filtration like carbon only go so far. Not to mention the micro nutrients that need to be replenished that we don't dose for. If you overdose on a supplement how are you to get it back down to proper levels? A water change! As corals grow and chemical reactions happen they use and change the chemical composition of the water at different rates and ratios. The water changes help bring back the equilibrium of the tank.
 
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