Purple tang not losing the ick

Darryl_V

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unibob link said:
[quote author=Darryl_V link=topic=5618.msg53751#msg53751 date=1371297793]
This is the ick that killed the clowns?  Or am I mixed up?


goodmorning  darryl, i think you mixed up. different dude. coffee?
[/quote]definitely need my coffee.  Still wont be the first or last time that I get confused!
 

Darryl_V

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unibob link said:
[quote author=Darryl_V link=topic=5618.msg53751#msg53751 date=1371297793]
This is the ick that killed the clowns?  Or am I mixed up?


goodmorning  darryl, i think you mixed up. different dude. coffee?
[/quote]definitely need my coffee.  Still wont be the first or last time that I get confused!
 

Darryl_V

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unibob link said:
[quote author=Darryl_V link=topic=5618.msg53751#msg53751 date=1371297793]
This is the ick that killed the clowns?  Or am I mixed up?


goodmorning  darryl, i think you mixed up. different dude. coffee?
[/quote]definitely need my coffee.  Still wont be the first or last time that I get confused!
 

blair

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whats your temp at? try raising it a few degrees i would also wait it out to and keep up with the garlic
 

blair

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whats your temp at? try raising it a few degrees i would also wait it out to and keep up with the garlic
 

blair

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whats your temp at? try raising it a few degrees i would also wait it out to and keep up with the garlic
 

Giglio324

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my purple tang had a little spot on him that looked like a grain of salt. i left him alone kept up with the feeding and it went away by itself. i dunno if it was ick or not but i agree with everyone else. leave him, if hes strong he'll get rid of it on his own
 

Giglio324

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my purple tang had a little spot on him that looked like a grain of salt. i left him alone kept up with the feeding and it went away by itself. i dunno if it was ick or not but i agree with everyone else. leave him, if hes strong he'll get rid of it on his own
 

Giglio324

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my purple tang had a little spot on him that looked like a grain of salt. i left him alone kept up with the feeding and it went away by itself. i dunno if it was ick or not but i agree with everyone else. leave him, if hes strong he'll get rid of it on his own
 

Reef Hero

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I would just leave him and keep feeding and see what happens..... Stress is the worst for any fish and it seems like he is happy and eating so what really would a QT do besides make it much more stressed.....I realize you could treat with meds in the QT but meds is always last resort anyways IMO..... It is always much better to allow the disease to pass naturally....if the tang stops eating or begins showing behavior signs of illness then maybe QT and treat with meds.....I have a CBB that got some sort of fungus disease on it (forget the name now) but it kept eating and behaving normal....fungus spread a little more until slowly it started to recede and eventually diminished altogether.....this took about 5 months or more total.... The CBB is doing great! Best of luck! Keep us up to date!
 

Reef Hero

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I would just leave him and keep feeding and see what happens..... Stress is the worst for any fish and it seems like he is happy and eating so what really would a QT do besides make it much more stressed.....I realize you could treat with meds in the QT but meds is always last resort anyways IMO..... It is always much better to allow the disease to pass naturally....if the tang stops eating or begins showing behavior signs of illness then maybe QT and treat with meds.....I have a CBB that got some sort of fungus disease on it (forget the name now) but it kept eating and behaving normal....fungus spread a little more until slowly it started to recede and eventually diminished altogether.....this took about 5 months or more total.... The CBB is doing great! Best of luck! Keep us up to date!
 

Reef Hero

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I would just leave him and keep feeding and see what happens..... Stress is the worst for any fish and it seems like he is happy and eating so what really would a QT do besides make it much more stressed.....I realize you could treat with meds in the QT but meds is always last resort anyways IMO..... It is always much better to allow the disease to pass naturally....if the tang stops eating or begins showing behavior signs of illness then maybe QT and treat with meds.....I have a CBB that got some sort of fungus disease on it (forget the name now) but it kept eating and behaving normal....fungus spread a little more until slowly it started to recede and eventually diminished altogether.....this took about 5 months or more total.... The CBB is doing great! Best of luck! Keep us up to date!
 

AdInfinitum

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Raising temp is a myth that comes from freshwater ich which is a completely different creature.

The tough thing about diagnosing SW rich is that anything that causes a skin irritation will lead to small white bumps appearing on the fish.

I generally prefer the "do less and if they are eating they'll fight it" approach. However with rich and ich-like parasites other are some exceptions.

If they are breathing hard and flashing (rubbing on rocks) their gills are being damaged which could kill them without ever showing an external spot.  Think Pneumonia.

Also particularly with scaleless thin skinned species by constantly shedding slime and bits of skin the process of osmoregulation (keeping their body fluid levels balanced with the outside sea water) becomes more and more energy intensive.  Their appetites may increase but eventually they will not be able to take in enough calories to maintain cellular homeostasis and they will begin to waste away.

Moving them into a tank where you can lower the salinity will relieve stress from the fish and increase the stress on the invertebrate parasites immediately. Even if you don't do the full hypo QT, some time in lower salinity can tip the balance and allow the fish to recover while putting severe stress on the ich.

Plus....Chances are when you have them out anyway...you'll do the full QT anyway...
 

AdInfinitum

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Raising temp is a myth that comes from freshwater ich which is a completely different creature.

The tough thing about diagnosing SW rich is that anything that causes a skin irritation will lead to small white bumps appearing on the fish.

I generally prefer the "do less and if they are eating they'll fight it" approach. However with rich and ich-like parasites other are some exceptions.

If they are breathing hard and flashing (rubbing on rocks) their gills are being damaged which could kill them without ever showing an external spot.  Think Pneumonia.

Also particularly with scaleless thin skinned species by constantly shedding slime and bits of skin the process of osmoregulation (keeping their body fluid levels balanced with the outside sea water) becomes more and more energy intensive.  Their appetites may increase but eventually they will not be able to take in enough calories to maintain cellular homeostasis and they will begin to waste away.

Moving them into a tank where you can lower the salinity will relieve stress from the fish and increase the stress on the invertebrate parasites immediately. Even if you don't do the full hypo QT, some time in lower salinity can tip the balance and allow the fish to recover while putting severe stress on the ich.

Plus....Chances are when you have them out anyway...you'll do the full QT anyway...
 

AdInfinitum

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Thorndale, Ontario
Raising temp is a myth that comes from freshwater ich which is a completely different creature.

The tough thing about diagnosing SW rich is that anything that causes a skin irritation will lead to small white bumps appearing on the fish.

I generally prefer the "do less and if they are eating they'll fight it" approach. However with rich and ich-like parasites other are some exceptions.

If they are breathing hard and flashing (rubbing on rocks) their gills are being damaged which could kill them without ever showing an external spot.  Think Pneumonia.

Also particularly with scaleless thin skinned species by constantly shedding slime and bits of skin the process of osmoregulation (keeping their body fluid levels balanced with the outside sea water) becomes more and more energy intensive.  Their appetites may increase but eventually they will not be able to take in enough calories to maintain cellular homeostasis and they will begin to waste away.

Moving them into a tank where you can lower the salinity will relieve stress from the fish and increase the stress on the invertebrate parasites immediately. Even if you don't do the full hypo QT, some time in lower salinity can tip the balance and allow the fish to recover while putting severe stress on the ich.

Plus....Chances are when you have them out anyway...you'll do the full QT anyway...
 
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