Please Criticize My Sump Plans

donaldj

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benzzz link said:
If your looking for water volume.  You can always add a one way check valve so no water drains to sump in case of power fail.  Just a thought.

Wouldn't that just mean no water would flow back down the return?
 

Duke

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donaldj link said:
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If your looking for water volume.  You can always add a one way check valve so no water drains to sump in case of power fail.  Just a thought.

Wouldn't that just mean no water would flow back down the return?
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Yea but this isn't a good idea as those check valves are known to fail.. The risk is the same imo, if your sump can't handle the extra water volume when u turn your return off its going to overflow on the floor with or without a check valve
 

donaldj

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Regardless of check valve quality, wouldn't the majority of water flow down the drain in event of power failure instead of the return? How much water can be contained in the return pipes?
 

Duke

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donaldj link said:
Regardless of check valve quality, wouldn't the majority of water flow down the drain in event of power failure instead of the return? How much water can be contained in the return pipes?

No the drain will only drain until it sucks air, same with the return, picture when u shut our pump off its creates a syphon through your return nozzles in the tank until they suck air also, so how much water gets siphoned into your sump via the return line is dependant on the depth you have your nozzle at.. So if it's down 1", 1" of water from your DT will end up in your sump... Even a 3000$ check valve is taking the same risk, they are designed to keep prime on pumps.. Not to stop water flow. Murphys law, add a part that's prone to fail... One day it will. Best practice is to make sure you sump can hold the extra water when u shut the pump off..
 

Duke

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It's still a good suggestion, I debated using one myself so in case of a power outage my skimmer wouldn't overflow from the high sump level, just it's a good idea to make sure u still have the volume in your sump incase it fails.. And a skimmer overflow into the tank isn't that bad.. Water in my living room simply would be a disaster.
 

donaldj

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Hm. This whole "overflowing sump" thing is making me consider a larger sump for a similar water volume.
 

jeffopentax

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Now look what you've done!You've scared the lad! Do what duke said:  shut off the pump and make sure there's enough room in sump for water from overflow and plumbing.


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Petercar (RIP Dec 2017)

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if yu have yur sump taking so much water. and yur pump died. ..but yur skimmer is still going.  ..yud like lots of extra gallons.  ..cuz.  those skimmers can splash water all over the place off the top.
 

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donaldj link said:
Version 3.0! I nixed the media reactor. My display is only 20 gallons, so I'm not sure a media reactor is completely necessary. The smallest reactors I can find are rated for 60 gallon tanks, so anything I buy commercially would be overkill. I may just anchor little bags of GFO and Carbon in high-flow areas of the sump.

New in 3.0:
  • Baffles! Baffles everywhere!
  • Lowered Water Level
  • Nixed media reactor

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I don't see the necessity of the baffle adjacent the pump,it's just something in the road.
 
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