Ich meds killing corals?

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Doesnnt that have copper in it? And copper is bad for corals?
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Doesn't say it contains copper...says 'reef-tested'.
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Reef tested is not reef safe and even those that claim safe.....lets be serious....it's not!
Another marketing strategy......and look who pays.....damn them!!


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Most of the corals have responded to the 25% water change I did today. Still not out of the woods, but definitely making progress. My 2 green torches seem to be the hardest hit. The frogspawn sure is hardy though...barely a scratch. I'll keep up with daily water changes for the next while and hopefully most of them fully recover.
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Are you running carbon??? If not, then do so....and keep up with the above normal water changes.....but not too much at a time.....


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Also, what is the details on your system.....size, livestock, filters, reactors, etc...?


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Also, what is the details on your system.....size, livestock, filters, reactors, etc...?


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55 Gallon, skimmer, power filter, 40-ish pounds liverock, 6 fish, 2 turbo snails, 3 hermits, cleaner shrimp, and around 8-10 corals. I've been sticking to about 10% per week water changes.
 
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On a 55G I would say 5G per day is lots......try replacing carbon again too....
Stop frequent water changes soon after corals show a sign of come back.....but watch them! Keep us posted!! What are your params?


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Check this out.

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/disease/ickscaleless.php

Can you tell which you used?


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Wow ! I'm sorry to hear of your troubles! I just went through this. Lesson learned the hard way. I bought a powder blue and yep - ich. I tired ich-x - didn't help and it was a lot of work doing the constant water changes in a 65 gal tank. Next step, was to set up a quarantine tank - actually 2 to house everyone as I didn't want to kill my chocolate chip starfish. I used cupramine and I am very happy to say that the only loss was the powder blue. From now on all fish coming in will be quarantined. I'll leave the tank running. I kept my 65 empty of all fish, only snails and the starfish in it and let it run for 3 1/2 weeks, while I treated everyone. They're happily ensconced back in their home now and the pair of Tomato clowns I picked up yesterday are very happy in their 30 gallon quarantine tank. So my question is does everyone keep a quarantine tank running all the time? as well how long? I see that someone mentioned 5 weeks. Does anyone else have any thoughts on how long to quarantine and whether they keep a quarantine tank running all the time?
Best of luck with your ick
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yes you should be concerned, Im pretty sure any treatments should be done in a separate tank away from corals. Best advice is to read this thread below, it breaks it down pretty good.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1992196

I should have read this article before I asked my questions, live and learn. Quarantine for a minimum of 6 weeks and Ohhhh how I hope that I waited long enough to return my guys to their big tank. It can live up to 28 days without a host in one part of the cycle.
Fingers crossed that all continues to go well. They all look healthy and happy right now - happy to be back home in the larger tank
Sherry
 
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Was it the same store where you got the fish that sold you this "reef tested" fix?
 
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Did I miss something? yesterday it was a copperband butterfly? this morning your post is edited to a Mandarin Dragonet? Just so you know Mandarins are one of the only fish that do not carry or contract ich. They have a very thick slime coat which makes them unable to carry ich. My bet is the copperband butterfly from the LFS, or if you've purchased any frags from anyone in the last month that already was having HUGE fish problems, maybe you transferred it into your tank from them.
 
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YEARS ago I made the same mistake, and yes more bad advice, and not only did it kill a few corals, it didn't cure the ich and it permanently stained the silicone in the tank blue.  I remember being so mad that it was "reef safe". 

I also swear to god I had a mandarin that got ich.


As I understand it, all fish can have the ich spores or whatever on them all the time.  The only ones that get ich are sick or severely stressed.  That's why it's best to leave fish at the store and make sure they're settled in and eating.  Remember, they're a pet to you, but a commodity to those selling.  Here's a LFS receiving some fish.  Enjoy!

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Did I miss something? yesterday it was a copperband butterfly? this morning your post is edited to a Mandarin Dragonet? Just so you know Mandarins are one of the only fish that do not carry or contract ich. They have a very thick slime coat which makes them unable to carry ich. My bet is the copperband butterfly from the LFS, or if you've purchased any frags from anyone in the last month that already was having HUGE fish problems, maybe you transferred it into your tank from them.
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Ya, I goofed. It was the Mandarin that I first noticed had it. I've read different opinions about whether or not they can get ich. It has white spots and attempts to rub itself against rocks...Since first noticing it 2 other fish have the same symptoms.
 
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yes you should be concerned, Im pretty sure any treatments should be done in a separate tank away from corals. Best advice is to read this thread below, it breaks it down pretty good.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1992196

I should have read this article before I asked my questions, live and learn. Quarantine for a minimum of 6 weeks and Ohhhh how I hope that I waited long enough to return my guys to their big tank. It can live up to 28 days without a host in one part of the cycle.
Fingers crossed that all continues to go well. They all look healthy and happy right now - happy to be back home in the larger tank
Sherry
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Thanks for the help. I'll be running a QT from now on...I'm curious as well, how many people here actually use QT's for new fish??
 
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