I GIVE UP !!!

reeffreak

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I GIVE UP !!!

Lol ya he does ... I dipped 10 corals last night and nothing came off them. So far they were on 3 staghorns , 1 pink Millie back to dipping when class is over.
 

reeffreak

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Well i think I lucked out on these little shits .. first day I found 6 on a staghorn .. next day 1 on a pink millie ... Ive dipped 20+ corals now in bayer insecticide and havent seen anymore fall off since yesterday morning.. I have also been basting the coral in the tank and have yet to see any more. The corals that were effected are already looking goood .. Im lucky all corals have not encrusted the rocks yet and was able to pull them out and treat in a 10 gallon tank.

My only worry now is eggs I think , Ive examined each coral as much as I possible could and havent found any eggs yet. Im hoping if I can keep up on the dips and basting them in tank , with the purchase of some nice wrasse , this problem should be a thing of the past.

Thanks for those who had some input , Teebone that RC article made me feel a hell of a lot better, thanks for that .. So now that we know AEFW ARE in the area , everyone should be well aware of this and dip EVERYTHING. I didnt becasue it all came from a well known hobbyist with a sick ass sps tank never would have thought they would pass the buck without saying a peep about it .
 
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problem is when they only affect a coral or two in your tank then its hard to tell if you have em. When they infect the whole tank then its easy to figure out what's going on.

the problem with AEFW is they are born "fully matured" which means they can start laying eggs pretty quickly. You've now wiped the hatched population. I would dip again in a week so if any hatch in the next couple days they can be killed off before laying more eggs. last thing you want is eggs at the end of the 6 weeks!
 

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im still continueing to dip 2x a week because of the eggs , also basting them every morning and evry night will help with the issue of hatched eggs , what I am trying to accomplish with the basting is to get them freshly hatched AEFW into the water colum and A. eating by fish or B. down the overflow and skimmed out. along with the dis 2-3x a week . for now every coral has been treated weather I seen signs of stress or not everythign was dipped to be 190% sure all living AEFW were taking out .
 

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Have you looked at the most recent featured tank on advanced aquarist? I belive that tank has AEFW and is so far along that he cant do anything about it, other than control it. He says for that reason ne never gives out frags...damn shame really.
 

reeffreak

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AdamS link said:
Have you looked at the most recent featured tank on advanced aquarist? I belive that tank has AEFW and is so far along that he cant do anything about it, other than control it. He says for that reason ne never gives out frags...damn shame really.

YA im trying to avoid that .. mine are all small frags still so Im not as worried as I would be if it was a full blown colonies. I can eradicate them 100% right now. its not a full blown infestation.
 

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Re: I GIVE UP !!!

This person is not in the country atm so we should wait for him to get back before rumors get spread out of hand.

PEWPEW!
 

reeffreak

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its ok pewpew , i have emailed this person in regards to this issue. nobody has said any names so im not really sure what you mean. but lets leave it at that for now . thanks for the help tho.
 

Hayes

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Not sure what to say here folks. Pretty sure Pat is implying that I "gave" him flatworms. If I am wrong then please accept my apologies.

Begin rant

For a person with next to no SPS experience to cast aspersion on a another reefer with many many years into the hobby and some pretty good success lately
is ridiculous, childish and misinformed, it really shows his/her inexperience

I shut down my frag tank for several reasons, none of theses included AEFW infestation. Why would I ruin my reputation to make a few bucks? Im not rich but Im not poor and certainly not desperate for cash.

I have zero, none, nada AEFW in my DT and to my knowledge none in the frag tank that was shut down. Anyone that has seen my tank recently will be able to report seeing a healthy thriving tank.

Having said all this it is ludicrous to not assume responsibility for taking care of all your stock, including any new pieces from ANYONE, even if your mother grows frags you need to dip them once a week for 4-6 weeks (like I do) BEFORE they hit your DT. It just makes sense. Protect your investment!

I have bought and traded frags from hobbyists, stores from all over Canada and the US and have more than my share of AEFW on many pieces, places you would expect NOT to have AEFW. I have learned that the devil worms can and do come from anywhere and everywhere so its up to YOU the informed hobbyist to protect your tank by applying quarantine. The times I have found them I CALLED the individual and spoke to them about it so they could take the necessary steps to stop the invasion. I didnt pussy out and start blaming the last guy I bought from. What a joke.

God help anyone who says anything negative about me or my frags. Im a conscientious guy in everyday life and in this hobby. Shame on you. I have better things to do than cause hurt/pain to anyone. I would have thrown every piece of SPS into the garbage before doing what I am accused of

Now Im going back to my Rye and Coke sitting on the beach watching the sunset, have a great night!

Dwayne

PS this is why I keep to myself, dont let many people over and basically distrust the world. People suck, take no responsibility for their actions and would rather point the finger in others direction

End rant 
 

Darryl_V

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I know Dwayne would not have "passed the buck".  At least knowingly and remember inicent until proven guilty.

I've been lucky not too ever see these in person myself but like Dwayne mentioned you should be diping corals and taking precautions because you may have herpies coral pests and not even know it.!
 

reeffreak

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first off,  I never said it was intentional so lets get that fact straight.  Secondly, Hayes if you QT your coral before your display where was the QT done for 6 weeks ? your frag tank ? I didnt see any other QT system set-up, for someone who deals with people all over the country and the USA, and trade so much I cant see you setting up a temporary QT ? So if you used your frag tank as a "QT" that would make no sense at all.

Also the misinformed one is the one who thinks just because they have a thriving tank that they are pest free. which is false. Take a closer look when you get home from the beach.

I had 25+ thriving SPS "frags" before these colonies, just little tiny boppers compaired to these colonies , and i seen no sign of AEFW ( which would be easy to spot on a 1 inch frag ) FOR 10 MONTHS ( insert head scratch) , then the german blue and the purple stag were added and BAM 3 weeks later signs of AEFW . hmmmm

I will add your right I should have dipped all my coral, thats my mistake , which is another reason why the name HAYES didnt come up in this thread , only until your buddy pew pew pew , pmd me very concered about where they came from, then I said it to him , privatly because I know for a fact they didnt come from anywhere else. The only coral to be added in 10 months was the stuff I mentioned above. So I think you may want to double, triple check on that AEFW problem, cause its almost gaurenteed.
 

reeffreak

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the thread was made for me to find ways to deal with it , not to debate on where they came from. So as far as that goes, if its not about treatments please dont post on the thread,  I really dont want it to turn into anything more then a treatment methods thread.
 

Reef Hero

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I GIVE UP !!!

Can you please post more pics? And also post up some pics of them on the corals......
How many have you seen? Do you have any wrasse in the tank?


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reeffreak

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I have a mccoskers wrasse in the tank now, I am going tomarrow to pick up some other wrasses specifically a melanurus wrasse, and some yellow corisse wrasses. I have seen about 10 flatworms.

I dont have any camera thats good enought to take picturs of the corasl Ihave my iphone but it wont pick up anything, but I will try and get some shots hopefully soon.
 

Hayes

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I have no issues with AEFW, period.
If I do they are very very discreet. My tank has been on auto pilot for quite some time. I do have lots and lots of glass anemone's if anyone is looking for some. Im not sure who gave them to me but Ill make something up later
I have a long list of happy customers or at least ones who have never contacted me in regards to any issues so I have to assume they are happy

Until you withdraw the veiled description of where/whos tank these came from I will continue to post my comments here.
Rick can close it if he thinks it needs closing.
 

Reef Hero

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I GIVE UP !!!

Why don't you try the salifert or KZ solutions? Before they multiply.....because the die off later can be treacherous.


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reeffreak

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Hayes link said:
I have no issues with AEFW, period.
If I do they are very very discreet.

this makes no sense at all , very contradiciting I dont have them If i do they are not visible .... well no shit..  they dont jump out the tank and say hey Im here to eat your shit

so since you wanna drag it on , why dont you answer the questions I had for you insterad of tryig to be arrogant ?
 

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Re: I GIVE UP !!!

Reef Hero link said:
Why don't you try the salifert or KZ solutions? Before they multiply.....because the die off later can be treacherous.


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wrong flat worm your thinking of.
 

Reef Hero

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I GIVE UP !!!

If you read about flatworms, there are diff types and they can be dormant.....
Lots of people have overcome them.....are they seriously affecting the coral?
I would dose before they get bad.....


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reeffreak

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Re: I GIVE UP !!!

Reef Hero link said:
If you read about flatworms, there are diff types and they can be dormant.....
Lots of people have overcome them.....are they seriously affecting the coral?
I would dose before they get bad.....


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have you read this whole thread ???
 
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