fauna marin balling salts

[PFoster]

I am actually diluting all of the Ballling Light salts

And your not upsetting any balance.

You dose what your tank needs according to the consumption of your corals.


I think you are talking about full balling which uses Na Cl free salts.
Ca alk and Na Cl free salt must be used in specific proportions with full balling and mg is completely seperate.
You remove sw and replace with FW in order to stop your salinity from raising (basically a wc with FW)

Fauna Marin uses the Balling Light method.
Much easier to use.
Ca, alk and mg are dosed according to what your tank consumes and you can keep your parameters exactly where you want em.
Easier and simer

 

[Duke]

OK sorry, I thought these were just a fancy 2 part solution, thanks for the clarification.

 

[Duke]

ok after looking up the product i still believe you should not be diluting one more than the other, cal/alk are finely balanced and unless you are say diluting it to say 25% strength and then dosing exactly 4x the amount of alk than calcium (assuming you mixed the calcium part as per the instructions) you are essentially messing with the balance of uptake by corals. Randy Holmes Farley has a great write up on dosing additives to keep your cal/alk/mag levels in check and while his recipes are DIY in the first few paragraphs he talks about this balance and how you should not be straying from it.. and its this balance he has based his recipe on and i would assume fauna marine also bases their recipe on the same balance, maybe im way off but i believe this is the correct information.

Heres a link to the article, im sure everyones seen it before..


http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/#19

This two-part additive system is similar to the many commercial two-part additive systems. It allows aquarists to supplement calcium and alkalinity without greatly skewing the water's ionic balance (something that is claimed by many of the commercial products, but that is not independently verified). Equal addition of the two parts to a reef aquarium will provide calcium and alkalinity in approximately the same ratio used in calcification by corals and coralline algae.One part is calcium chloride dissolved in water, and the other part is baking soda (either baked or not prior to use) dissolved in water. The balance between these two additives is very important, and the recipe is designed for aquarists to dose equal portions of the two parts every time they dose. An aquarium using such a balanced additive system is unlikely to undergo large short-term swings in calcium and alkalinity, as can happen if an aquarist using independent additives were to inadvertently overdose one or the other. This problem is surprisingly common, and using balanced calcium and alkalinity additive systems for most additions serves to eliminate that potential danger.
A \"third\" part of this additive system contains magnesium, sulfate, and chloride. It needs to be added only once in a while at a fixed rate relative to the other two parts. It cannot be readily combined with either of the other parts, based on the ingredients discussed here that are readily available to aquarists (commercial systems may have more chemicals to select from, such as sodium sulfate, allowing more flexibility). This third part is necessary to prevent magnesium depletion, and to prevent abnormal chloride and sulfate ratios in the aquarium.
The seven most abundant ions in seawater, in decreasing order of concentration, are chloride, sodium, sulfate, magnesium, calcium, potassium and bicarbonate. Using this new recipe will keep all of these ions in their appropriate ratios (detailed below).

 

[pulpfiction1]

Equal addition of the two parts to a reef aquarium will provide calcium and alkalinity in approximately the same ratio used in calcification by corals and coralline algae.

in order to achieve this i would assume the recipe has to be followed to the letter

 

[PFoster]

At a friends daughters birthday party right now and answering from my cell phone, will post later tonight .
Trust me when I tell you that my mixing directions are correct and yes by volume, you do dose approximately 4x more of the alk solution. By mass you are dosing approx the same amount of calcium as you are alkalinity. As previously stated, calcium dissolves very well in water, carbonate dose not.

 

[nexusnight]

I agree with duke. I don't like a product I have to mess with let alone stray from he manufacters directions for usage. I doubled the water need and blasted it with a pump in its own little tank and still an easy 30% is not dissolved. I'm not using this product line and am returning the mag before I open it up.
Fauna has great stuff but IMO this ones not up up to par.
Maybe I got a bad batch dunno


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[unibob]

I agree with duke. I don't like a product I have to mess with let alone stray from he manufacters directions for usage. I doubled the water need and blasted it with a pump in its own little tank and still an easy 30% is not dissolved. I'm not using this product line and am returning the mag before I open it up.
Fauna has great stuff but IMO this ones not up up to par.
Maybe I got a bad batch dunno


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Often imitated never duplicated.

 

[pulpfiction1]

good one jerry

 

[nexusnight]

So I f'd up on the mix it looks like lol. 500g to 4l o water. Lookin at it that would likely work.
I will add another three gallons to my mix and see for sure. 1 kg being 1000g it should dissolve I hope. It's the only additive in the line that's way different from the rest


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[nexusnight]

Ment three litres not gallons


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