Ya I figured it out, ecotechs instructions are wrong, they say to turn off cellular and turn on airplane mode, reenable bluetooth then open the mobius app but you can't log into mobius in airplane mode.Tons of times. Just takes patience as it can take 10-20 minutes sometimes to complete it. I have done it for Vectras and Vortechs. To note, there is no way to downgrade the G5 or Versa.