Heaters

[Winks]

I'm going to put in 2 heaters into my new sump. Due to the physical size of the sump, I'm going to need as short a heater as possible. I'm needing 300 watt total so I guess 2 x 150 watt would be ideal as long as they are short enough. I have also seen inline heater which I'm not sure if I can just hook up to a pump and pump water through it. Any setups that I have seen are always hooked up to a canister filter.

Does anyone have any ideas what type of heaters are higher wattage but shorter, or know if I can hook up an inline heater.

 

[Skim]

Can you give an idea of what length you are needing. What are your sumps dimensions?

 

[jeffopentax]

I’ve got a hydor 300w inline heater on my 115g. Love it! Haven’t had to touch it since I installed it a year and a half ago. Like you mentioned, I do run a canister. If your lines are pvc as opposed to tubing, you’d have to use a couple slip to barb adaptors. The manufacturer’s ratings are actually lower than reality. The 300w is rated for up to 80g, but my tank is in a not-so-warm basement, and I’ve never seen the temperature fluctuate. Highly recommend you go that route.


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[TORX]

Keep in mind that most heaters are submersible.

When I was running longer Jager heaters, I just put them against the glass on an angle. Nothing says they need to be vertical.

 

[Winks]

I’ve got a hydor 300w inline heater on my 115g. Love it! Haven’t had to touch it since I installed it a year and a half ago. Like you mentioned, I do run a canister. If your lines are pvc as opposed to tubing, you’d have to use a couple slip to barb adaptors. The manufacturer’s ratings are actually lower than reality. The 300w is rated for up to 80g, but my tank is in a not-so-warm basement, and I’ve never seen the temperature fluctuate. Highly recommend you go that route.


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The Hydro is what I was looking at. Seems to be a good dependable name. I would get 2 150w but I'm not sure if I could just pump water through them and back into the sump or if I would have to put them through a canister. I'm not real keen on putting them through a canister.

 

[Winks]

Keep in mind that most heaters are submersible.

When I was running longer Jager heaters, I just put them against the glass on an angle. Nothing says they need to be vertical.

My biggest problem is with the configuration of my sump, the longest heater I would be able to run would be 13" maximum length. That's even putting them at an angle. It's pretty short for a submersible heater. If I have to, I would go with 3 x 100w to get there but if I can do it with 2, then I would like that much better. I'm pretty sure I want 2 in there as a fail save if one goes bad then there is at least some heat in there versus only one heater if it fails there would be no heat.

 

[Winks]

Can you give an idea of what length you are needing. What are your sumps dimensions?

The maximum length I could put in my sump would be 13" long. That would even have to include the adjustment knob on the top of the heater. I really want to keep the heaters out of my MD

 

[jeffopentax]

The Hydro is what I was looking at. Seems to be a good dependable name. I would get 2 150w but I'm not sure if I could just pump water through them and back into the sump or if I would have to put them through a canister. I'm not real keen on putting them through a canister.

Just put it in your return line. That’s the same as running on a canister.


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[Winks]

Just put it in your return line. That’s the same as running on a canister.


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Well after doing some more digging around and searching, which is actually part of the fun with this hobby, I looked at that option. Problem is, I have 1.25" return on this system. Going from 1.25" to .625" would put a huge strain on the return pump by increasing the pressure through the heater then it would go back to 1.25" decreasing the pressure. I'm not sure what that would actually do to the pump. I think, and I'm no expert by any means, that I should be able to just put it on it's own pump as long as it doesn't go through the heat so fast that it doesn't pick up the heat transfer on the way through.

 

[jeffopentax]

Or could just switch your return line to 5/8


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[Skim]

The reason I asked for dimensions is because I believe you showed a pic in your build posting. I was thinking you could put the heaters in your sock compartment depending on the height of the holder and you could leave the very top of the heaters out of the water and have to worry about leakage ever.