Friendly warning about Mycobacterium Marinum

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yveterinarian

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I came across this post in another forum and thought it would be a good thing to post it here as well.  This happened to someone in the States on the other Forum I belong to and serves as a great reminder to be careful around our tanks:

I have had the unfortunate experience of a suffering from a mycobacterium marinum infection in my hand/arm and it is NOT fun!!! Took almost 3 months to diagnose it and another 6 months of heavy antibiotic treatment to get rid of it. We have come to the conclusion that it entered my hand through a small puncture wound from an old splinter on my finger. I have been keeping marine/freshwater aquariums for over 25 years and always just stuck my hand in my tanks. Always had relatively healthy fish/tanks without any signs of diseases, so it is true that m. marinum can be present in all tanks. It can be present in any body of water, even swimming pools as someone mentioned!

Initial symptoms were a few small nodules on the back of my hand, similar to mosquito bites. Also very painful joints in fingers. They started spreading up my arm (along the lymph track). Initially saw a dermatologist for them. It took several biopsies and tissue samples to determine the actual cause of infection. I was immediately referred to an infectious disease specialist who was smart enough to start me right away on antibiotics even while we were still waiting for test results. This was important because the testing/culturing for the bacteria took almost 2 months!! This quick treatment helped to prevent the infection from spreading. The recommended treatment for m. marinum is long-term oral antibiotic treatment for up to a year!!! It is related to TB and can spread to your lungs. I was lucky to avoid surgery to remove the nodules, the antibiotics shrunk the remaining nodules and after almost a year after being diagnosed, I was declared \"bacteria-free\"!!! I only have a few small scars where the biopsies were taken. The treatment wasn't without complications, including experiencing a severe drug reaction to one type of antibiotic that we tried, constant blood tests and doctor visits, along with the hassle of taking high doses of probiotics and eating enough yogurt to last me a lifetime!! doh.gif

Moral of the story....wear gloves when working with your aquariums, especially if you have an open cut/wound. If you think it can't happen to you, it definitely can!! 

Also, for anyone suffering from these symptoms or any other unexplained illnesses, please advise your Doctor that you keep an aquarium.  This can help them diagnose something they may not think of looking for.
 

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Great thread. I had to go find this topic not long ago. I made the miss hap of petting a large bristle worm... Finger was a mess for about two weeks. I was really thinking I might need to get it looked at. Thankfully, it started getting better.This, and pally toxin info should be printed, and kept around IMO. Doctors won't think to look for marine caused problems first. At least we can speed up the diagnosis.
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Definitely worth discussing.  J_T, almost everytime I move something in my tank, I end up with a finger full of bristle worm bristles lodged in my finger tip (or tips).  The end of my finger swells up and stays that way for a couple of days, then returns to normal.  Annoying, but not the biggest deal.  I probably should wear gloves when moving stuff around, but I'm too lazy and couldn't be bothered.  If the above happened to me though, I think I'd change my tune in a hurry.
 

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great idea to share this info, anyone wonder why Walmart got rid of their fish tanks? from a friend who works there, this is exactly why, one of the employees ended up really sick from an infection from the water in the tank and disease, if memory serves me right it was TB that the employee ended up with. I should wear gloves, but don't, lol same with gardening, I start out wearing the gloves, they last about 5 minutes and then they're off
 

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I mentioned this to the peeps at Reef Wholesale a couple of days ago, they are going to discuss this and more at the frag swap.  She told me some things that seriously made me shudder.  These tanks are great, but definitely a danger! 
 

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Damn! I stick my hands in the water all the time......even use my fingers to brush off cyano and pick out the Caulerpa......I usually have small cuts and nicks on my hands all the time.....guess I have been lucky.


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Reef Hero link said:
Damn! I stick my hands in the water all the time......even use my fingers to brush off cyano and pick out the Caulerpa......I usually have small cuts and nicks on my hands all the time.....guess I have been lucky.


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Ha I am in saltwater 5-7 days a week and I also usually have cuts on my hand.  Been that way since 2002 lol
 

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It certainly can be scary, the TB info I know as accurate, I think if we looked around there's quite a number of scary things we can pick up from our tanks
 

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Big_Als_London link said:
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Damn! I stick my hands in the water all the time......even use my fingers to brush off cyano and pick out the Caulerpa......I usually have small cuts and nicks on my hands all the time.....guess I have been lucky.


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Ha I am in saltwater 5-7 days a week and I also usually have cuts on my hand.  Been that way since 2002 lol
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I, as well, have my hands in the tanks all the time but now I will be getting some gloves.  I don't want to run the risk.  As a nurse, I have seen what some of these illnesses do to people and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.  Our luck could run out any day.  It's the same as smokers (sorry to all smokers out there) saying that Lung cancer will never happen to them.  History has shown us that it does with alarming frequency.  The only way to truly say "It will never happen to me" is to take proper precautions and not put yourself in the position where it "could happen".  Just something to think about.
 

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I was told that the sting from say a torch coral may not effect you the first 100(?) times, but the toxin can build up in your system, so the 101th time...you don't even make it to the hospital. 
 

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K if you have ever had an open cut or anything g and got torch slime on it... You will remember it for next time.


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Salty Cracker link said:
I was told that the sting from say a torch coral may not effect you the first 100(?) times, but the toxin can build up in your system, so the 101th time...you don't even make it to the hospital. 

Wow, I didn't know that one.  I'll have to keep it in mind.

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I like the look of those ones because I think you can feel things easier but would they be thick enough to prevent something cutting through them? eg a sharp rock or shell 
 

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It's not the regular 'tentacles' from the torch either, it's the late night sweepers.  I didn't know that either.  The gloves would likely rip, BUT they would be much better protection most of the time...than nothing at all. 
 

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Salty Cracker link said:
It's not the regular 'tentacles' from the torch either, it's the late night sweepers.  I didn't know that either.  The gloves would likely rip, BUT they would be much better protection most of the time...than nothing at all.

oh.. shoulda read this earlier... i just transfered my torch from tank to tank and used only my hands....  :?
 
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